Comments for Sylverant

Comment on Happy Easter! by BlueCrab

BlueCrab — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:26:57 +0000

Any issues with any players should be discussed with me, in private, and I will work to deal with any issues. If you’d like to discuss matters further, you should PM me on one of the many forums I frequent.

Making vague comments like this one doesn’t really serve any purpose, as it doesn’t give me any information on which to base any sort of decision.

That said, I feel that this thread has gotten a bit out of control at this point… Thus, I’m closing comments here for now.

Comment on Happy Easter! by FaithY

FaithY — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 02:03:35 +0000

I don’t know if witch-hunt is the correct way to phrase this, but I have definately been harassed by him both in game and in PM, at sylverant. It was not a pleasant experience. And yes it is extremely difficult for me to understand his English most of the time, too.

Comment on Happy Easter! by BlueCrab

BlueCrab — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:23:14 +0000

I’ve personally never really had any sort of problem with kireek, other than one time where I probably misunderstood what he was trying to say. If I saw any sort of witch hunt list for Sylverant, the issue would be dealt with in the proper manner. I should hope it would never come down to that.

That’s all I’m going to say on that subject…

Comment on Happy Easter! by K_I_R_E_E_K

K_I_R_E_E_K — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:38:40 +0000

Hehe, thanks, i have done one actually, a new title screen already avaiable

Comment on Happy Easter! by Lee

Lee — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:30:07 +0000

On most pso servers now kireek is known for being the troll he is. He doesn’t start legitimate debates, he tries to enforce his play style and opinion on others and just trolls them when he doesn’t get his own way. Usually ends up on them kicking or temp banning him anyway.

He was perm banned from the schtserv forum for doing exactly this, starting up witch hunts and legitimacy wars, he had this hypocritical list which would name people he considered cheaters, which included people using enhancements by Ives, he would cause trouble in game, entering peoples games and acting like he was some kind of member of staff demanding the history of all their items, when asked to remove the list and to stop harassing people in game he refused. He really isn’t the sort of person you want anywhere near a server.

Also this made me lol:

“I fear that your atitude combined with false or incomplete info may do more damage then good (wich i may have to fix afterwards), so leave those details with us, we know what were doing.”

He’s already trying to troll now saying the information i extract from the games data is false and that he will have to “fix”. Most of which is so far above his level he wouldn’t understand it anyway.

Might as well waste bluecrabs time more asking for more useless things like the idiot checker which is bypassed by anyone who wants to cheat anyway that the server can’t do anything about, yet complain about something that does actually stop client modification. It kinda shows how smart you really are.

Comment on Happy Easter! by Treamcaster

Treamcaster — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:54:00 +0000

“Those that wish to use the new features can enable them. Those that don’t can disable and avoid them. It’s as simple as that.”

QFT. I think there’s room for everyone as long as people respect each others way of playing.

One last word for everyone:
-Lee, keep up the good job bringing us ways to extend the game;
-Crab, keep up the awesome job with the server;
-Kireek, keep up making nice skins.

And remember guys, Sylverant’s “The Happy PSO Server”!

Comment on Happy Easter! by BlueCrab

BlueCrab — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:21:44 +0000

I’d really rather this not turn into some sort of fight. Nobody ever claimed this was schthack, nor do I think anyone wants that outcome either. Each server has its own set of rules and its own way to go about its business. How I run things here works great for our small community, but would likely fall flat on its face in a community the size of schthack. I have not been on the server at schthack in quite a while, but I know I never ran into problems when I played there. That said, any disagreements with how they run things don’t belong here, and I think that everyone involved can accept that and realizes that.

That all said, the information provided by Lee (and indirectly provided by him by way of the Tethealla source code, where it is my understanding that he provided all of the information to Sodaboy to implement this stuff there) is really the only reason I could implement the stuff I’m working on at all — in the correct and game-appropriate way, anyway. Yes, it took some extrapolating from the information I had to start to get things working for v2, but it was just that — extrapolating. Without the information in Tethealla (and elsewhere), I would have likely spent a whole lot of time designing a completely new drop system that would have ended up working nothing like the one in PSO itself. Would anyone have accepted that new drop system as legitimate and producing legit weapons? Everything would have ended up being different, so I’d be likely to believe that no they wouldn’t.

TL;DR: Everyone has their own opinions on how things should work. People disagree, that’s human nature. I’m happy to accept information from pretty much anyone if it helps make Sylverant a better place.

Comment on Happy Easter! by K_I_R_E_E_K

K_I_R_E_E_K — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:57:27 +0000

*if it is working then i’m not going to change it.

Comment on Happy Easter! by K_I_R_E_E_K

K_I_R_E_E_K — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:51:13 +0000

@lee (for once not “representing” schthack)
This ain’t schthack or pso palace, where 1 opinion is shared and everyone agrees because they are afraid of getting looked down or worse, i have plenty of examples if you need them.
If anything i need to know details on how things work because as a GM and player i need to know what i’m getting into and what are the other players getting into, i also need to transmit the information properly, this way the overload of questions can be distributed by the several members and players.
I try (along with others) to explain every situation i can, including legit issues, i have to explain to ppl why they are not alowed or why they are alowed, the difference in ships,….
This way bluecrab isn’t the only one that replies to all of these questions over and over again.
My view is a concern that affects lot’s of players, i can’t simply ignore them because “you don’t like it”
So far, my methods have pleased both legit and non legit players so that everyone can play in the server without causing anoyance to each other, if it is working then i’m going to change it.
My recomendation when in the server is to try and direct users with questions to a GM or anyone that knows about the subject, i fear that your atitude combined with false or incomplete info may do more damage then good (wich i may have to fix afterwards), so leave those details with us, we know what were doing.
If you have a problem, you can always try contact bluecrab or the dc-talk administration if you feel that my methods are causing problems (if they exist at all).
Ppl here think for themselves , we need to comunicate and i made my poit of view publicly because i ain’t afraid and because i believe that my view is shared by other users, so bluecrab reply is by all effects a reply to several players.
I had legitimate questions, just because you don’t like it then that doesn’t mean i can’t do them, or anyone for that matter.
If you are trying to get me in trouble, well good luck with that.
why do you show concerns when you don’t know what is the deal here?

@bluecrab
He is unaware of what legit players need and want, that’s why it was the wild west at schthack with no concern with players and with no support of any kind.
Schthack also tries to delete or lock all debates regarding legitimacy and lee failed to realise this isn’t schthack and that i consider debates essential in understanding everyone’s mind.

Lee is atempting to trool me or misguide you bluecrab, be carefull.

Comment on Happy Easter! by BlueCrab

BlueCrab — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 03:13:19 +0000

The way I look at it is without such information, PSO would have been dead long ago. Plus, its impossible to make an open-source PSO server without giving away that knowledge, at least to a degree. Also, at this point, its pretty much impossible to write a PSO server without some of the knowledge from those that did so before — even if its only indirectly obtained knowledge.

In writing a server and maintaining it and such, I always play a bit of a balancing act. I try to balance the feelings of those that would like to see the game extended and modified and such with those that would like to see it left alone. That way, everyone can play they way they want to. With as small of a community as I have here, that’s a relatively easy task. I’d also like to think that as long as any new features are added as “optional” that nobody would feel that I have unilaterally acted against them. Those that wish to use the new features can enable them. Those that don’t can disable and avoid them. It’s as simple as that.

This is also the beauty of the open-source approach from my mind. If someone REALLY feels that I’ve acted against them, they could always fork the code and maintain their copy without it and run their own server if they felt the need to. Sure, that’s not an easy task with a codebase that was written by someone else (especially me, as I really hate writing documentation), but it certainly is possible to any relatively decent C programmer, I think.

I think that the people here understand these things, at least I’d hope that they do.